In this episode I speak with Joy Chen, CEO of Joyous, a career coaching and leadership development firm for Asian Americans, whose wakeup call was realizing that although Asian Americans are highly sought out as new hires for their work ethic, competence and focus, they rarely move up in an organization to the higher levels that depend more on interpersonal skills but their plight is often overlooked by DEI initiatives. https://www.getjoyous.net/.