Matthew Chaim, singer, songwriter, and conspirer behind web3 music communities, Songcamp, is today's guest. We discussed his continued developments with Songcamp, as well as the many projects that have spun out, and the learnings from his time as a builder, including making space for creativity and curiosity, the process of world building (including the story of Elektra) leading with a core team in web3 and how he brings improvisation into his leadership style.