S1E3- The third episode of Talk with EMAS!

Nowadays, having more than one job or task to do is a common trend. Busyness becomes something glorified in our society and we will feel like a lazy person when we are not being busy as the other people do. But being busy doesn’t mean that we are being effective with our time. Being busy and being effective is different. Find out more about the characteristic of an effective person by listening to this podcast lead by Lia ft. Tri Susilowati, one of our wonderful participants who are also a mom of three kids.

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