We discuss 4 football games, EFL cup matches Chelsea vs Tottenham and Brighton vs United. Then into the premier league with Crystal Palace vs Chelsea and United vs Tottenham - a woeful performance from United with a devastating loss - is this the beginning of the end for Ole? We look at the transfer window as it is now closed, rate each other windows and once again discuss United as a football club (business). We also do a quick run down of the astonishing loss Liverpool suffered against Aston Villa.