In this interview with Performance High teacher Joe Mondragon, recorded during the George Floyd protests, we touch on a recent event involving Joe which encouraged Performance High to take a stand. Then, since this isn't a current events podcast, we return to the music topics we usually cover - this time including how Joe was tricked into playing guitar, how he found his way into playing tons of local shows, when it makes sense to tour and when it doesn't, licensing and publishing as a revenue stream, and the future of music in the pandemic era and beyond.