Wife, mom, coach, writer, professor — Denise wears many hats, and in this episode, she opens up about the story behind them all. From her early days in education to the first-ever concert she produced on Alcatraz Island, Denise shares the moments that shaped her and the lessons that led to Our Rough Draft.

This episode offers a deeper look at the woman behind the mic — why storytelling matters, what drives her to create spaces for connection, and how she hopes this podcast will help listeners feel a little less alone.

• The story behind Our Rough Draft and how it came to be.
• Denise’s journey from educator to professor, coach, and writer.
• The power of storytelling to build understanding and connection.
• The meaning behind the “rough draft” — embracing imperfection and growth.
• A few personal stories, including producing the first concert on Alcatraz (!).
• What listeners can expect in future episodes — weekly releases, shared stories, and meaningful conversations.

• Every story begins as a rough draft — and that’s something to celebrate.
• Storytelling helps us make sense of who we are and how we connect with others.
• Connection often begins with curiosity and a willingness to listen.
• Growth happens when we show up authentically and share our real experiences.
• You don’t have to have it all figured out to have something worth sharing.

“We want to share part of our story.”
“I feel very fortunate in my career.”
“We want to encourage storytelling.”
“Every rough draft is the beginning of something worth refining.”

Somewhere between the school drop-offs and the late-night projects, you start to wonder… who am I becoming through all of this?
Ask someone close to you who they see — and then share your own reflection.

• The Gottman Institute — Tools and research for building healthy relationships.
• The Storytelling Leader — On using story to inspire, teach, and connect.
• Brené Brown — Research on courage, vulnerability, and belonging.

Fun Mention:

• Alcatraz — Where Denise helped produce the first-ever concert on the island — a story about creativity, collaboration, and saying yes to unexpected opportunities.

We invite you to join the conversation — use our Conversation & Connection Cards each week to go deeper with the people in your life.

And if there’s something you’d love to hear us talk about, reach out! Your questions and stories shape what comes next.

• When was the last time you said yes to something unexpected that changed your story?
• How do your “many hats” — parent, professional, partner, friend — shape who you’re becoming?
• What story from your own life feels ready to be shared, even if it’s still a rough draft?