In this episode, we dive into what it looks like being a bivocational pastor, balancing full-time work with ministry. We discuss the significant time demands that come with preparing sermons and managing church responsibilities, and how it affects personal time and relationships. The conversation also covers the need for creative and innovative thinking in Korean immigrant churches and the importance of respecting boundaries and effective communication within church leadership. Finally, we emphasize the importance of spiritual health and the conviction of one's calling in managing these two callings.