This episode contains explicit language.

In our third episode, host Noura McNelis Mahmoud speaks with Antonio De Jesús López about his poetry book Gentefication. Exploring Antonio's writing and time as an activist and public servant, they touch on language's power to take up space and hold the nuance that labels fail. Their conversation covers the politicization of poets of color, gentrification as a multi-directional process, and much more.

Antonio De Jesus Lopez is the Poet Laureate of San Mateo County, the former Councilman of the City of East Palo Alto, and the Director of Research and Advocacy at Ayudando Latinos a Sonar. He is also an academic and activist. His book Gentefication was published by Four Way Books.The views, opinions, and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and do not necessarily reflect, represent, or constitute the official position, policy, or views of New Global Normal or any associated individuals, sponsors, or partners. Each participant speaks solely for themselves, and no endorsement of any particular viewpoint should be inferred from the participation of any organisation, individual, or other entity in this podcast.