What happens if the foundation of U.S. climate regulation is pulled back?

In this episode, Dan Romeo sits down with Houston attorney Marcella Burke—founder of Burke Law Group and former EPA official—to break down the EPA’s 2009 “endangerment finding” and the proposed 2025 repeal.

They discuss how Massachusetts v. EPA (2007) led to CO₂ being regulated under the Clean Air Act, why that decision still drives vehicle standards and permitting today, and what a repeal would realistically mean. From expected legal battles to state pushback and industry reactions, this episode unpacks what’s truly at stake.

00:38 Meet Marcella Burke

02:21 Endangerment Finding 101: Clean Air Act basics

05:17 2025 Re-Evaluation: Reopening the science

07:09 Massachusetts v. EPA (2007)

11:10 Legal vs. policy impact

14:22 The Court Battle Ahead

20:10 Industry Divide & Political Stakes

32:29 Immediate Impact: Vehicle standards & permitting

35:23 State Pushback: California & federal tension

36:49 Suncor v. Boulder County & climate litigation

38:40 The Economic Argument for Rescinding

54:06 Closing Thoughts & What’s Next