Today I sat down with one of my closest friends, Steve Vogel. Steven is a trombone professor, private lesson instructor, content, creator, and beer aficionado. We talk about food, beer, teaching, hunting/fishing, how covid has effected him and his family, and the current state of the world. It got pretty deep towards the end, but it was important conversation nonetheless. It was a really fun conversation, and I hope y’all enjoy listening to it as much as I did having it!

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