John Howell, Medford pastor and owner/operator at Rise Coffee House, joins Josh and David as they talk about some of the frustrations and struggles of pastoring a small church and trying to be innovative and think outside the box. As it turns out, starting a coffee house/church, while offering huge potential and awesome connections, is not necessarily a great way to “grow” a church. But alas, God calls us to faithfulness and obedience, not growth…