Honored to by joined by Dr. Sarah Lewis, Director of Penal Reform Solutions of England. Sarah is also the founder of the Growth Alliance and the Growth Movement. From probation, to prison reform to desistance...we cover it all in this episode! Oh and listen for the Avengers reference film buffs!

Penal Reform Solutions: https://penalreformsolutions.com/

Growth Alliance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnfT6X24Odo

Growth Uncut: https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/growth-uncut/id1511476675?uo=4