In this episode, Josh and Sean explore a wide range of topics, from health issues and ageing to cancel culture. They reflect on the challenges of living in London, discussing the city's high cost of living, quality of life, and how the weather affects their well-being. Considering future plans, they debate the pros and cons of relocating to warmer climates. 

The conversation also delves into celebrity accountability, questioning the responsibilities of public figures who associate with controversial individuals, and whether cancel culture actually exists. Finally, they tackle the complexities of separating the art from the artist, examining how historical context and personal values shape the way we appreciate creative works, and whether humans are hard-wired to elevate the views of celebrities.

Enjoy the ride!

About the Hosts

Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here:

https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts

Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here:

https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan

He works with food charity Made In Hackney - find out more here:

https://madeinhackney.org

Theme Music

Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts -  Stream it here: 

https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KxOAKJFWCoSWBMA99QEax?si=3Q_SjkQKTVuXANcrxmh95g