In honour of Father's Day this year, I talk to a dad who had no intention on ever having kids, but found himself with two. He talks about the hopelessness that fatherhood sometimes brings, the joy of seeing his kids and how society - and at one point his son would not allow him to be the father he needs to be.
Check out his instagram page @growingfather
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