In this episode, Sam and Gen are joined by guest host Simone Smithson for a candid conversation about memory and meaning, and why two people can experience the same relationship and remember it completely differently.

Through specific moments from their marriage, including how their relationship began, a honeymoon memory that carried opposite emotions, and a gift that was deeply meaningful to one and barely noticed by the other, they explore how memory is shaped by need, emotion, and survival.

The former couple also discuss love languages, selective memory, and how reframing the past can either keep us stuck or help us heal. Sam and Gen reflect on how growth changes perspective, how hearing each other’s memories now feels different than it once would have, and why healing does not require perfect agreement.

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