Sean: I want to rewind a little bit and ask you about; what separates people who breakthrough and become experts, in spite of all the adversity, criticism, and the hardships that it takes to be one, versus someone who tried to become an expert but didn't quite make the cut? What's the separating factor between the two?

Alan: Yeah, I actually spent a lot of time studying the attributes of experts, and in this particular subject, I've sort of narrowed it down to one attribute that seems to make a difference. I'm sure there are others, Sean, but there's one that stands out the most to me, and it seems like there are people who have just an insatiable curiosity, right? They just keep asking. They just won't stop pursuing the angles and the differences. And there's this unending curiosity.

Alan: And I think that really distinguishes people who are going to be able to move past proficiency and into a stage of excellence if they just, will never find the end of the knowledge that they want to obtain. What makes someone an expert is not the accumulation of all available knowledge, it's the accumulation of all available knowledge and then going beyond the accumulated knowledge, right? That's the distinction right out of someone who is proficient versus someone who steps into the darkness of excellence and someone who goes beyond what is already known.

Sean: Got it. That's very good to know, curiosity.

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