In this episode, Michael DeMaria and I explore the rich, complex, and paradoxical themes of burnout and renewal central to our lives as empaths, recovering codependents (over givers) and creative types.

Speaking from our personal experiences with burnout and how-not-to-burn-out, Michael and I explore: 

• The importance of the soul (water, earth) in tempering the creative fire and air of spirit
• How to honor and be in conversation with instead of pathologizing processes of the soul that feel dark, slow, and counter to creative productivity
• Learning to differentiate between the ego being fed and the soul being fed through creative purpose 
• How to be who we are....sustainably

I also share the story of how I burned out nine years ago on fulfilling my soul purpose, what I did to recover, and how I engage with purpose differently now.

With love,

McCall

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