During his highly productive NFL career, which included five NFC championship game appearances for the Philadelphia Eagles and a memorable Super Bowl XXXIX duel with Tom Brady, Donovan McNabb had a knack for blocking out the noise. From being booed on draft day to getting stigmatized by Rush Limbaugh to being one of the league’s first prominent black quarterbacks, McNabb never had it easy--but he maintained a healthy perspective and did a whole lot of smiling. In this spirited conversation with a journalist who witnessed a lot of it (and his impressionable daughter), McNabb reflects on his journey and looks ahead to Super Bowl LV, as his former coach, Andy Reid, tries to win a second consecutive Lombardi Trophy. McNabb also voices strong opinions about Packers QB Aaron Rodgers, Chiefs offensive coordinator (and head coaching candidate) Eric Bieniemy and 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan.