Hosted by longtime friends Montel Vontavious Porter (MVP) and Houston-based rapper & songwriter Dwayne Swayze, Marking Out with MVP & Dwayne Swayze takes you inside the world of professional wrestling like never before. In Episode 37, the guys break down what kayfabe really is, why it died, and whether wrestlers should be paid extra for keeping storylines alive on social media, all with raw, unfiltered insight from one of the most respected veterans in the business.

Before the wrestling talk, MVP and Dwayne swap throwback music stories, including their first rap names and the Run-DMC inspiration that sparked MVP’s earliest rhymes.

MVP defines kayfabe as the industry’s code for protecting the business, from separate locker rooms to referees relaying finishes, and explains how modern media erased the mystique he felt as a kid watching icons like Abdullah the Butcher and The Undertaker.

They also unpack how wrestler pay evolved from gate-driven payouts to weekly salaries, why promotion can be its own payoff, and how MVP approached the WWE “Fall Mighty” rollout tied to Bobby Lashley.

Finally, MVP reacts to John Cena tapping out to Gunther at Saturday Night’s Main Event, explains the “come in on your back, go out on your back” tradition, and gives Cena his flowers. Like, comment, subscribe, and share, then join the Patreon for exclusive videos each month.

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About Marking Out with MVP and Dwayne Swayze:

Marking Out with MVP & Dwayne Swayze is a weekly wrestling podcast hosted by longtime friends MVP, a professional wrestling veteran with over 20 years in the business, and Dwayne Swayze, a Houston-based rapper with a deep love for the sport. Every Monday, MVP pulls back the curtain on pro wrestling, breaking down its history, behind-the-scenes moments, and the psychology that makes it all work. With firsthand experience in the ring, he shares unfiltered insight, legendary road stories, and deep dives into promos, match strategy, and the business behind the spectacle. No topic is off limits.

New episodes release every Monday. Audio drops at midnight CT on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and everywhere podcasts are available. The full video show premieres at noon CT on YouTube. Subscribe for real talk, real stories, and a fresh perspective on the world of professional wrestling.

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