Today James is speaking with Troy Fisher, an ethical hacker at IBM Security who educates using Rubik's cubes and draws from early experience battling major malware like the ILOVEYOU virus outbreak. Join us as Troy discusses facing major malware incidents early in his career and puzzling his way into a role in ethical hacking. We'll also hear how Troy uses Rubik's cubes to demonstrate hacking concepts, how his background in music and performance aids compelling security education, and more stories from his eclectic career path on this episode of The Adventures of Alice and Bob podcast.