A lot of people talk about “submission” like it’s control, silence, or hierarchy. This conversation clears it up with Bible, wisdom, and real-life counsel. Pastor Michael Willard joins Pastor James and Pastor Tiffaney for a needed talk on biblical leadership in love, what submission actually means, why courtship should reveal seasons, and how to think about divorce with wisdom and boundaries, not pressure and fear.

If you’re dating, engaged, married, rebuilding trust, or trying to grow spiritually with a spouse who isn’t, this episode will help you get language, alignment, and next steps.

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