Sean: Hey, Dave. Just want to say you're a modern-day hero to a lot of people.

Dave: I'm not a hero. I'm just someone that's trying to give back in a really small way. And it's really one of the prongs of my efforts around helping the community, particularly the Asian-American community. I would say, you know, we can talk more about it, but there are really three things I'm really focused on. One is helping Asians get more economic power. And unfortunately, not all of us will be Jerry Yang or Eric Yuan of Zoom. Most of us will work in companies, and most of us will need to figure out how to rise the corporate ladder. And so this book is really my gift to people trying to better themselves economically by rising the corporate ladder.

Dave: The second major area of focus for me is really around policy and politics, but from a new standpoint. So I'm the vice-chairman of one of the leading Asian-American news sites in the U.S. called Asia AM News, ASAMNew.com. And we're a volunteer network. We're nonprofit, but we want to keep reporting stories that are important to the Asian community. And if you have been tracking, for instance, #StopAsianHate before, some of the more tragic events with Michelle Go and Christina Euna Lee, before those events, the mainstream news had actually stopped really reporting on Asian hate crimes. And I think there was a general perception among non-Asians that the Asian hate crimes have subsided. And in fact, that's not true at all. In fact, they've actually gotten worse. And we were one of the few news outlets that continue to report on it. So it just illustrates to me that we need a source of news for our community that will continue to report on the news that's important to us when all the other mass news outlets have gone away. So that's kind of the second major focus of mine.

Dave: And then the third is entertainment. So I'm a big believer that we need to get more Asian faces and more Asian voices in the media. Otherwise, particularly in America, we will continue to be viewed as the other, will continue to be viewed as a foreigner. And so I've been working with media production companies that are primarily founded by Asian-Americans. I've helped finance them. I've helped advise them as well as I just started a new company called Reel 8 - Reel8.com where we've effectively built an NFT marketplace for Asian filmmakers to help Asian filmmakers further monetize their films. So that just kind of gives you a more holistic sense of the things that I'm focused on. And you can get a sense of the commonality is that I'm trying to help the Asian community, and that's a big focus of mine, not the least of which is because I have two boys and I want to make the world a little bit better for them when they become adults and grow older.

Sean: For sure. For sure. And by the way, thank you so much for doing the work for me. I have two boys as well and I'll just ask them to read your book when they grow up. But I'll get a copy for sure. I want to read it. I'm very interested in it.

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