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Ep. 38 - Race, Justice, and Discipleship with Rev. David W. Swanson
Join us for a conversation with Rev. David W. Swanson where you’ll learn more about what discipleship is, how you can understand race and justice as part of Christian discipleship, and how interacting with social media can be shaped by Christian discipleship.
00:00 - Introduction
02:22 - Patreon
02:54 - What is discipleship?
05:43 - What do we leave behind for Jesus?
09:40 - Individual and communal discipleship
14:09 - Understanding race as part of our discipleship journey
18:25 - Personal journey to understanding race as part of discipleship
22:16 - How church context influences understandings of race and discipleship
24:25 - Responsibility of church leaders in discipleship
34:18 - From cheap diversity to true solidarity
37:38 - Discipleship in crisis and non-crisis moments
43:09 - Discipleship on social media
52:20 - Additional resources
Find us online:
Website - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/
Instagram - @biblicaljusticeresources
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@biblicaljusticeresources
Patreon - https://patreon.com/BiblicalJusticeResources
Links:
Rediscipling the White Church - https://www.ivpress.com/rediscipling-the-white-church
Posture Shift - https://postureshift.com/
Roadmap to Reconciliation - https://www.ivpress.com/roadmap-to-reconciliation-2-0
Plundered - https://www.ivpress.com/plundered
Brenda Salter McNeil - https://spu.edu/academics/seattle-pacific-seminary/emeriti/salter-mcneil-brenda
The Anti-Greed Gospel - https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781587436307_the-anti-greed-gospel
Minnesota Historical Society - https://www.mnhs.org/
Sankofa @ Home (history of race and racism in Minnesota) - https://transformmn.org/portfolio/sankofa-at-home/
Related episodes:
Justice, Evangelism, and Cultural Engagement - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/podcast-archive/2026/3/3/ep-37-justice-evangelism-and-cultural-engagement-with-rev-dr-song-chan-rah
De-Centering Whiteness and Learning How to Follow - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/podcast-archive/2026/1/20/ep-31-de-centering-whiteness-and-learning-how-to-follow-with-rev-dr-rose-lee-norman
Racial Justice for the Long Haul - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/podcast-archive/2026/1/6/ep-29-racial-justice-for-the-long-haul-with-dr-christine-jeske
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By Biblical Justice ResourcesJoin us for a conversation with Rev. David W. Swanson where you’ll learn more about what discipleship is, how you can understand race and justice as part of Christian discipleship, and how interacting with social media can be shaped by Christian discipleship.
00:00 - Introduction
02:22 - Patreon
02:54 - What is discipleship?
05:43 - What do we leave behind for Jesus?
09:40 - Individual and communal discipleship
14:09 - Understanding race as part of our discipleship journey
18:25 - Personal journey to understanding race as part of discipleship
22:16 - How church context influences understandings of race and discipleship
24:25 - Responsibility of church leaders in discipleship
34:18 - From cheap diversity to true solidarity
37:38 - Discipleship in crisis and non-crisis moments
43:09 - Discipleship on social media
52:20 - Additional resources
Find us online:
Website - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/
Instagram - @biblicaljusticeresources
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@biblicaljusticeresources
Patreon - https://patreon.com/BiblicalJusticeResources
Links:
Rediscipling the White Church - https://www.ivpress.com/rediscipling-the-white-church
Posture Shift - https://postureshift.com/
Roadmap to Reconciliation - https://www.ivpress.com/roadmap-to-reconciliation-2-0
Plundered - https://www.ivpress.com/plundered
Brenda Salter McNeil - https://spu.edu/academics/seattle-pacific-seminary/emeriti/salter-mcneil-brenda
The Anti-Greed Gospel - https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781587436307_the-anti-greed-gospel
Minnesota Historical Society - https://www.mnhs.org/
Sankofa @ Home (history of race and racism in Minnesota) - https://transformmn.org/portfolio/sankofa-at-home/
Related episodes:
Justice, Evangelism, and Cultural Engagement - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/podcast-archive/2026/3/3/ep-37-justice-evangelism-and-cultural-engagement-with-rev-dr-song-chan-rah
De-Centering Whiteness and Learning How to Follow - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/podcast-archive/2026/1/20/ep-31-de-centering-whiteness-and-learning-how-to-follow-with-rev-dr-rose-lee-norman
Racial Justice for the Long Haul - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/podcast-archive/2026/1/6/ep-29-racial-justice-for-the-long-haul-with-dr-christine-jeske