In this episode, we talked to our good friend Sophia Gripari about trouble sleeping, making music as a kid, our shared drummer (Jacob Harelick), going to "Hogwarts", Berklee, "enjoyment insurance", great teachers, dancing on Wednesdays, hosting a songwriting camp in Joshua Tree, Shania Twain karaoke, our upcoming collaboration "Lonely In LA" (out 9.3.20), and the stories behind her songs ("Lesson Learned" / "Clear To Me" / "Hate You But I Don't" / "Lie To Me").

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