Kathryn and Tug discuss the best wines for BBQ, afternoons in the sun and wines from the USA. Perfect for 4th of July celebrations! What will July 4th look like in a pandemic? We have no idea... Kathryn loves dark Rosé, especially the one she's drinking in this episode. The couple gives an update on their kids - health issues and sleepless nights abound. Tug is happy to be listening to the new album from Khruangbin. Kathryn is inspired by author and speaker Charles Eisenstein, and his latest essay 'The Coronation.' The Wine of the Week is Big Table Farm 'Laughing Pig Rosé of Pinot Noir, Willamette Valley, Oregon 2019.

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