In a first for this podcast, I sit down with another person to hear and discuss their perspectives on topics covered in this podcast. In this episode I sit down with Noble Glines, a Utah native, return missionary and former BYU student. We talk about BYU's Race Equity and Belonging Report, discuss his experience with BYU and why he left, and comment on Dallin H Oaks April 2021 conference address. Noble also uses some verses from the Book of Mormon and explains the relation he sees between them and critical theory.