Bill Hoefflin is a career naturalist who has worked at Maumee Bay State Park, Metroparks Toledo and currently at the Wood County Park District. He has an in depth knowledge of the outdoors and a passion for teaching about wildlife and nature. On this episode we discuss our 137 mile Fort to Port Kayaking Trip along the Maumee River, we try to understand why some people are terrified of the outdoors and we talk a LOT of smack. 

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