Rick Shapiro is author of the Amazon best-seller "Hope Never Dies." He's spent over twenty-five years meeting with top cancer doctors and attending cancer conferences to unravel the secrets of why some people diagnosed with terminal cancer end up beating the odds.

Today we're talking to Rick about what cancer is, the role of holistic, integrative treatments in fighting various forms of cancer, the cancer industrial complex and economic incentives of the conventional standard of care with chemotherapy, radiation and surgery and what we can do to make sense of this space.

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