The goal of this episode is to have a conversation about a hot topic and hopefully reach a compromise. Please support my friend Sam and his podcast at:

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To checkout part 1 of this you will need to click on this link

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pasta-podcast/id1486198904?i=1000498516244