Join Marissa Martino interview one of her favorite mentors in the animal training industry, author of Plenty in Life is Free, Kathy Sdao. During the episode, they discuss what Nonviolent Communication (NVC) is and how we can use these principles when communicating with our canines and our loved ones.

This approach resonates so much with Marissa and Kathy as it parallels and complements their shared philosophy when it comes to communicating and training with our dogs.