David is joined by friend Joe Richardson, who spends his days as a plaintiff attorney and civil rights speaker/educator, for a fascinating conversation about how critical it is to communicate when things aren't going well and you're feeling vulnerable. Leadership, after all, is being able to connect AND wanting to connect regardless of circumstances.

The two also touch on the massive influence & significance of role models and the marriage of responsibility and capability.

ABOUT BECOMING BETTER MEN

David Berry, a longtime coach and advisor to organizational leaders and the VP of people & culture at MUNICIPAL, hosts a series of conversations with men who are dedicated to learning, growth, and the belief that cultural norms of masculinity are painfully outdated and damaging. The idea is to inspire and encourage "better men" to both live and lead in wholehearted ways. The dialogue gets deep and candid as each guest shares stories about their origins, developing their values, careers, family, faith, decision-making, and failure. Look for new episodes on iTunes and Spotify at the beginning of every week.

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