What does it really take to use learning science in the real world? In this episode, Srividya Kumar speaks with Dr. Kripa Sundar about the gap between research and practice. They explore why research often enters too late, how “learning science-based” products oversimplify evidence, and why balance matters more than blindly applying principles. The conversation also dives into seductive details, the limits of meta-analyses, and the importance of context. You’ll hear why measurement isn’t an endpoint, but an ongoing loop, and what it takes for learning scientists to influence real decisions inside organizations.

References Used

On seductive details: https://www.aft.org/ae/fall2020/sundar

How to find, read and use academic literature: https://www.cultofpedagogy.com/academic-research/

Guide to read meta-analyses: https://pdf.retrievalpractice.org/MetaAnalysisGuide.pdf

Role researchers and learning scientists can play: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-do-we-call-were-feeling-naming-dr-kripa-sundar-ecjzc/

AI decision field guide: https://www.edtechrecharge.com/ai-decision-field-guide

Connect with Kripa

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kripasundar/

Website: https://www.edtechrecharge.com/

Connect with Learnnovators

Website: https://learnnovators.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/learnnovators/

Connect with Vidya

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/srividyakumar/