Justin and I have had a long history! We played in two different rock bands in college, started a YouTube channel, he drummed on a bunch of Basic Printer tunes (one of which you definitely know), and he even shot and edited the Child Grows music video. I had him on the pod to talk about many things, but the centerpiece was "creativity". We talk about how the definition/identity of being creative could be a lot more mundane than you think, and we talk about how we hope people can find empowerment in the small ways that they live creatively. Supah glad to talk to him again, hope ya enjoi!