In this engaging conversation, Dan Hafner and Lee Russell explore the evolving landscape of AI and technology, focusing on the rise of vibe coding, its implications for entrepreneurs, and the recent developments in AI tools like GPT-5. They discuss the potential of vibe coding to empower non-technical entrepreneurs, the challenges of relying on AI as an advisor, and the strategic moves of companies embedding AI in government systems. The discussion highlights the balance between innovation and caution in the rapidly changing tech environment.

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