International travel during COVID-19 is not easy!  This episode, Adrian Maidment is the guest not the host, as he talks about getting  from New Zealand to Taiwan and back again.

Adrian compares isolation in Taiwan and New Zealand, the experience of being in near empty airports, COVID-19 checks, and people doing  their jobs protecting boarders from the virus.

The host for this episode is Nick Ririnui (Nick was a guest on Series 1, Episode 11).