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Ep. 45 Hydrangea Happiness with C.L. Fornari


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For some of us, happiness is a hydrangea in full, glorious bloom.

And if you’re not yet well acquainted with these flowering shrubs, who better to learn from than The Garden Lady herself? C.L. Fornari is the author of the upcoming 2026 book Hydrangea Happiness: Planting, Pruning and Blooming, among many others. She’s also a well-known gardening radio host and podcaster, appearing over the years as a contributor on NPR’s The Cultivated Gardener, as host of GardenLine on WXTK, as co-host of the podcast Plantrama, and today as the eponymous host of The Garden Lady on several NPR stations. We get the scoop on her broadcasting career, on her founding of the Cape Cod Hydrangea Festival, and on how she planned a modern-day guide to hydrangeas that’s “more Instagram and less coffee table book.”

Dive into this interview to learn about choosing the right hydrangea for a northern garden, about the truth of acidifying your soil for those beautiful blue mophead blooms, and about finding joy in your garden and your life. 

Find C.L. Online at:
  • GardenLady.com
  • Facebook: @CLTheGardenLady
  • Instagram: @CLTheGardenLady
  • Mentioned in This Episode
    • Hydrangea Happiness: Planting, Pruning & Blooming: https://brandeisuniversitypress.com/title/hydrangea-happiness-planting-pruning-and-blooming/ 
    • The Cope Cod Hydrangea Festival: https://www.capecodchamber.org/events/cape-cod-hydrangea-fest/    
    • Hydrangeas on the Azores:  https://www.treehugger.com/hydrangeas-azores-4869708  
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      Timestamps: 

      00:14 Introduction
      00:56 C.L. Fornari’s Garden Radio Host Career
      05:52 Founding the Cape Cod Hydrangea Festival
      08:33 Why (and How!) C.L. Wrote About Hydrangeas
      11:21 Postcards from Plants
      14:43 How Many Hydrangeas? Breeding and Selection
      16:43 A Paniculata Hydrangea for Erin’s Cold, Clay Conditions
      18:47 Finding the Right Spot for Your Shrub
      21:16 Are Hydrangeas Invasive?
      23:00 Hydrangea paniculata, a.k.a. Panicled Hydrangea
      23:25 Hydrangea arborescens, aka Smooth Hydrangea
      24:15 Hydrangea macrophylla, a.k.a. Bigleaf Hydrangea, a.k.a. Mophead Hydrangea
      25:09 Hydrangea serrata, a.k.a. Mountain Hydrangea
      27:10 C.L.’s Hydrangea Poetry
      28:25 Hydrangea quercifolia, a.k.a. Oakleaf Hydrangea
      28:35 Hydrangea anomala subsp. petiolaris., a.k.a. Climbing Hydrangea
      28:55 Acidifying Soil for Blue Hydrangeas
      31:05 The Stubborn Myth that Pine Needles Acidify Soil
      33:20 Moss Lawn Plant Rant
      34:27 Macrophylla Hydrangeas with Inconsistent Colours
      37:56 Poison Ivy Acres and Embracing All of Gardening
      39:40 Find C.L. Fornari Online
      40:45 Outro and Contact Us

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