In this conversation, Jason Parks and Emma Romano dive into the raw truth about healing, identity, and the messy middle of transformation. This isn’t about sugarcoating or pretending healing is a straight line—it’s about breaking down the illusions, honoring the chaos, and learning how to integrate real change.

With their signature mix of humor, depth, and unfiltered honesty, Jason and Emma unpack what happens when old identities fall away, why “rock bottom” moments can be sacred turning points, and how to stop outsourcing your power to others.

This conversation is for anyone who’s tired of surface-level spirituality and ready for grounded wisdom that meets you in the realness of your journey.

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Timestamps:

01:30 – Healing isn’t linear: the messy middle

03:20 – Identity shifts and losing your old self

05:00 – Why rock bottoms can be sacred turning points

07:15 – The breakdown-before-breakthrough cycle

09:00 – How integration really feels (vs. bypassing)

11:20 – The trap of outsourcing your healing

13:40 – Sovereignty and taking your power back

15:10 – Letting go of the “quick fix” mindset

17:00 – Humor, honesty, and real talk on transformation

19:30 – Practical tools for navigating deep change

21:00 – Why discomfort signals growth

23:00 – Holding space for yourself in hard seasons