The first in person pod is in the books! Yo, this was absolutely killer to get to go down to STL and record with Matt in his UMSO Podcast Studio and see the facility DOPE that he has built. Let me tell you, in person podcasts rule, and this conversation was 100% all around. We covered some weird shit like aliens, does god exist, business, plant medicine and other topics too. Best thing about this, Matt and Bonnie are just purely awesome people who are now allies and friends of mine. This is a long one, but it's worth every minute to listen. Great episode, great vibes, even cooler people. Enjoy.

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