Hal Hartley returns to the podcast to discuss the release of the Henry Fool Trilogy DVD box set which packages the 3 Grim Family tales ("Henry Fool", "Fay Grim", and "Ned Rifle") together for the first time. Also, a never before released conversation from 2014 with Hal Hartley and Ted Hope upon the release of Hal's film "My America". The music on this episode is from Hartley's instrumental album "After the Catastrophe" (2017).