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In this episode, we're diving deep into why traditional goal-setting methods fail so many of us—especially neurodivergent folks and anyone who doesn't fit the conventional mold. Zeph introduces their revolutionary SLIC method (Sustainable, Long-term, Iterative, Consistent) and shares why self-care isn't optional—it's strategic. But the real magic happens when we land on a beautiful reframe that might just change how you think about achievement forever.
Want to see how No-BS OKRs fit into a coherent Connected Strategic Stack?
This No-BS Connected Strategy Guide shows you what “good” looks like. Download examples of finished Connected Strategic Stacks — including best practice No-BS OKRs — and get instant clarity on your next strategic step. Includes a quick self-assessment to pinpoint your organization’s biggest OKR opportunities.
GET THE GUIDE
Episode Highlights:
Key Concepts Explored:
Common Questions Answered:
Notable Quotes:
"SMART goals are very binary. You either succeed or you fail. And I'm not somebody who does the binary very well." - Zeph Williams [00:03:00]
"When I hear 'specific,' it feels like a narrowing down... You don't get to enjoy the journey and enjoying the view." - Zeph Williams [00:07:00]
"Self-care isn't selfish—it's strategic. When you take care of yourself, you are sending a gentle reminder that you matter and that your needs matter." - Zeph Williams [00:11:00]
"What if instead of goal setting, we focused on becoming? What are you becoming?" - Zeph Williams [00:32:00]
"There are just so many people who are brilliant... Sometimes it just feels like the world has just gotten to them and that light has gotten really dim." - Zeph Williams [00:28:00]
Chapters:
[00:00:00] Introduction: Why SMART Goals Need a Rethink
[00:01:30] Meet Zeph: From Career Coaching to SLIC Thinking
[00:04:00] What’s Wrong with SMART Goals? The Limits of Over-Specification
[00:07:30] Beyond Binary Thinking: The Problems with Measurable & Time-Bound
[00:10:00] SLIC Goals: A Kinder Framework for Growth and Learning
[00:13:00] How to Know You’re Making Progress (Without Hitting a Number)
[00:15:30] Clarity Without Rigidity: Why Language Matters in Goal-Setting
[00:18:00] Accountability vs. Shame: Rethinking How We “Check In”
[00:20:30] Zeph’s Coaching Practice: How SLIC Supports Real Transformation
[00:24:00] Choosing Goals That Align With Your Values and Energy
[00:27:00] When Goal-Setting Feels Like Self-Punishment
[00:29:30] The Long Game: Creating Systems That Evolve With You
[00:32:00] SLIC in Practice: Real Examples from Zeph’s Clients
[00:35:00] How to Get Started with SLIC Thinking
[00:38:00] Wrap-Up: Connect with Zeph and Learn More
Guest Information:
Connect with Zeph:
Sara’s Links and Resources:
Upcoming Events:
Find full show notes and the episode transcript via https://findrc.co/thinkydoers .
Mentioned in this episode:
Don't forget: Get your free No-BS OKRs Workbook or schedule a VIP Strategy Day!
Before I let you go, I just wanna remind you, you can pick up your copy of "You Are a Strategist: Use No-BS OKRs to Get Big Things Done" at https://youareastrategist.com, and you'll get that free PDF of the "No-BS OKRs Workbook" when you purchase direct.
Don't forget your free No-BS OKRs Workbook
Before I let you go, I just wanna remind you, you can pick up your copy of "You Are a Strategist: Use No-BS OKRs to Get Big Things Done" at https://youareastrategist.com, and you'll get that free PDF of the "No-BS OKRs Workbook" when you purchase direct.
By Sara Lobkovich5
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In this episode, we're diving deep into why traditional goal-setting methods fail so many of us—especially neurodivergent folks and anyone who doesn't fit the conventional mold. Zeph introduces their revolutionary SLIC method (Sustainable, Long-term, Iterative, Consistent) and shares why self-care isn't optional—it's strategic. But the real magic happens when we land on a beautiful reframe that might just change how you think about achievement forever.
Want to see how No-BS OKRs fit into a coherent Connected Strategic Stack?
This No-BS Connected Strategy Guide shows you what “good” looks like. Download examples of finished Connected Strategic Stacks — including best practice No-BS OKRs — and get instant clarity on your next strategic step. Includes a quick self-assessment to pinpoint your organization’s biggest OKR opportunities.
GET THE GUIDE
Episode Highlights:
Key Concepts Explored:
Common Questions Answered:
Notable Quotes:
"SMART goals are very binary. You either succeed or you fail. And I'm not somebody who does the binary very well." - Zeph Williams [00:03:00]
"When I hear 'specific,' it feels like a narrowing down... You don't get to enjoy the journey and enjoying the view." - Zeph Williams [00:07:00]
"Self-care isn't selfish—it's strategic. When you take care of yourself, you are sending a gentle reminder that you matter and that your needs matter." - Zeph Williams [00:11:00]
"What if instead of goal setting, we focused on becoming? What are you becoming?" - Zeph Williams [00:32:00]
"There are just so many people who are brilliant... Sometimes it just feels like the world has just gotten to them and that light has gotten really dim." - Zeph Williams [00:28:00]
Chapters:
[00:00:00] Introduction: Why SMART Goals Need a Rethink
[00:01:30] Meet Zeph: From Career Coaching to SLIC Thinking
[00:04:00] What’s Wrong with SMART Goals? The Limits of Over-Specification
[00:07:30] Beyond Binary Thinking: The Problems with Measurable & Time-Bound
[00:10:00] SLIC Goals: A Kinder Framework for Growth and Learning
[00:13:00] How to Know You’re Making Progress (Without Hitting a Number)
[00:15:30] Clarity Without Rigidity: Why Language Matters in Goal-Setting
[00:18:00] Accountability vs. Shame: Rethinking How We “Check In”
[00:20:30] Zeph’s Coaching Practice: How SLIC Supports Real Transformation
[00:24:00] Choosing Goals That Align With Your Values and Energy
[00:27:00] When Goal-Setting Feels Like Self-Punishment
[00:29:30] The Long Game: Creating Systems That Evolve With You
[00:32:00] SLIC in Practice: Real Examples from Zeph’s Clients
[00:35:00] How to Get Started with SLIC Thinking
[00:38:00] Wrap-Up: Connect with Zeph and Learn More
Guest Information:
Connect with Zeph:
Sara’s Links and Resources:
Upcoming Events:
Find full show notes and the episode transcript via https://findrc.co/thinkydoers .
Mentioned in this episode:
Don't forget: Get your free No-BS OKRs Workbook or schedule a VIP Strategy Day!
Before I let you go, I just wanna remind you, you can pick up your copy of "You Are a Strategist: Use No-BS OKRs to Get Big Things Done" at https://youareastrategist.com, and you'll get that free PDF of the "No-BS OKRs Workbook" when you purchase direct.
Don't forget your free No-BS OKRs Workbook
Before I let you go, I just wanna remind you, you can pick up your copy of "You Are a Strategist: Use No-BS OKRs to Get Big Things Done" at https://youareastrategist.com, and you'll get that free PDF of the "No-BS OKRs Workbook" when you purchase direct.