Campy-O and Dylan Hanks have a virtual sit-down with San Diego punk rock legend, Brian Gower. Learn all about his bands "Plane Without a Pilot" and "Just In Case" plus we learn about his incredible podcast "The Tone Jerks Podcast" so this is not an episode to miss!

Support our guest and our show here:

https://planewithoutapilot.bandcamp.com/

https://thetonejerks.podbean.com/

https://linktr.ee/defiantrobotrecords (New Merch!)