We were recently asked to give a presentation for Pheasant's Forever and Quail Forever of Illinois about how to manage your property for whitetail deer as well as upland birds like pheasant, quail, and ruffed grouse. We discussed how managing deer and upland birds are similar, as well as the differences between the two types of management. We also talk about removing the ceilings and labels we put on ourselves as wildlife managers and looking at the bigger picture of wildlife management.