Vanessa Kindell joins us this episode. She is a writer and contributor to the Peacock Goat Review and a Sumerian witch. She talks to us about reconstructing Sumerian and Babylonian religious practices and integrating them into her modern magical work, but we really dig into the nature of Sumerian religion and the details of their mythology. This involves funky math, pre-modern astrology, the flood myth, and a lot of primordial nothingness -- my favorite kind!

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