Sean: Amazing. Thank you so much, Gustavo. And if there's any advice that you could give struggling business owners struggling to maybe ask their people to get back to a face-to-face office setup, what is your advice to them?

Gustavo: My advice is don't make strategic decisions without involving your people. I mean, Apple, and Google, tried to impose something and it became a mess and then they had to adjust. So save that time and save the PR nightmare and involve your people.

And once again, involving the people doesn't mean that that's going to be a democracy and people are going to vote. It's about getting insights. People see things that leaders fail to see because they are in different positions.

And also that's why you're paying them a lot of money because they're smart people. So use them as a portion of food for thought and don't make those decisions lightly. And most importantly, whatever decision you make, experiment, run a couple of experiments, see what works, and adopt, but also be open to adjusting your behavior from time to time.

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