Today Lou and Dre are joined by husband, aspiring father, healthy masculinity enthusiast, and owner of the Grizzled Teddy Company (@grizzledteddycompany) Donovan Daniel. 

Donovan starts out talking about his relationship with his dad (3:30) and realizing your parents can’t be your everything (10:20). Donovan talks about how he met his wife (14:30) and accepting his wife not wanting biological children (17:00). Donovan gives some marriage advice and even talks about his experience in marriage counseling (20:20).  He discusses his desire to adopt/foster a child (23:30) and explains the adoption/foster process (30:04). Donovan concludes with how he started Grizzled Teddy Company (35:40), physically making his beard oils (40:12) and his future mission (42:00). 

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