A conversation with University of California Cooperative Extension Sustainable Food Systems advisors for Los Angeles and Ventura Counties,  Drs. Rachel Surls and Rose Hayden-Smith about the victory garden movement, urban farming, community gardens, the Master Gardener program, and drought strategies for those interested in growing food. Recorded May 12, 2020. Find the episode transcript here: https://www.watertalkpodcast.com/episodes/episode-05