Artist and designer Chase Heard was educated in Virginia where he developed his painting skills and met the friends who would become the band Wrinkle Neck Mules.  He relocated to Austin, TX where he received his Masters of Architecture at UT and worked as an architect for a number of years before developing the Howler Brothers clothing brand. 

On this episode, John and Chase discuss running a company with your best friends, family, life and of course, success.