What if we valued the things that weren't for sale?

I’m doing a series of interviews with contributors to the second book by the Wicked Problems Collaborative; what do we do after the pandemic? I recently sat down with Sam Bliss to discuss his chapter, The Necessity of Non-Market Relationships. Sam and I also discussed degrowth ( a topic covered by Riccardo Mastini in our book). He then shared a story about his experience giving a talk to a group that looks at the world very differently than he does. (I think that last bit has some good lessons for us all.) The conversation was good fun. I hope you enjoy it and pick up something good to chew on.

Thanks for listening.

-Chris

WPC Book #2: What do we do after the pandemic? is available for pre-order.

Sam Bliss grows, shares, and studies non-market food. He co-organizes Food Not Bombs Burlington and is a Ph.D. candidate at the University of Vermont. He is also one among many presidents of DegrowUS, and a member of the scholar-activist collective Research & Degrowth.

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If you’re ready for more, check out the last WPC interview with Jacob Bacharach: On Reclaiming Public Space.

If you enjoy this episode, please check out some of the other WPC Book #2 interviews.

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