On this episode our guests are Hailey Loman and Kim Zumpfe. Hailey Loman is an artist in Los Angeles who works in performance and sculpture. She is the director and co-founder of LACA which is an acronym for Los Angeles Contemporary Archive. Kim Zumpfe is an artist, teacher and writer in Los Angeles. Her installation work often deals with architecture and how bodies move through spaces.

Our theme music as always is Ocfif by Lewis Keller and we go out with a song from Los Angeles band Plus True Light. You can find their music on BandCamp and SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/plustruelight . And the name of the song is “20:43”