In this episode, Josh and Sean unpack everything from awkward weight loss compliments to the deep flaws in the prison system. Along the way, they detour into the drama of cruise ships, the tragedy of Venus Xtravaganza, and the unique qualities of chihuahuas.

This episode digs into how society reacts to appearance changes, the influence of class and race on justice, and why politicians often miss the mark. DNA evidence, media narratives, and systemic bias all get a look-in, as the hosts ask if we are doing justice all wrong.

Whether you're here for the laughs or the big questions, this one's for you.

Enjoy the ride!

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About the Hosts

Josh Leuner is a London-based singer and plant-geek. Find out more about him here:

https://linktr.ee/joshandthejumpstarts 

Sean O’Callaghan is an award-winning blogger and published author. Find out more about him here:

https://linktr.ee/fatgayvegan 

Sean works with food charity Made In Hackney - find out more here:

https://madeinhackney.org 

The Prison Reform Trust document we refer to in this episode:

https://prisonreformtrust.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/prison_the_facts_2023.pdf

Theme Music

Our theme music is the song Empty Seat by Josh and The Jumpstarts   -  Stream it here: 

https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KxOAKJFWCoSWBMA99QEax?si=3Q_SjkQKTVuXANcrxmh95g